Episode IX Spoilers, Leaks and Rumors – Updated May 25

As filming for Episode IX begins, we’re going to be exposed to many different leaks and rumors concerning the film. Whether it comes to plot details or character arcs, it’s always fun to follow along and see if the predictions actually come to pass. While some early rumors pan out, most don’t (we never did get that Knights of Ren fight on Ahch-To, did we?)

Either way, it’s fun to look back and see what elements did make it into the film, and which leaks turned out to be legitimate. To simplify things, we’ll be making a list of the spoilers, leaks, and rumors along with the dates that they came out, so we can easily look back in December 2019 and see who really did have credible sources at Pinewood and who’s just been drinking a little too much blue milk.

So let’s begin!

If you’re looking for only official news announcements from only official sources that aren’t too spoilery, make sure to click here!

May 25 – Matt Smith’s name has been removed from Disney international websites leading to more speculation about his involvement or lack thereof in the film (He was mentioned on some of the Disney international cast listings on April 27th)

May 23 – During an interview, Adam Driver discussed the overall story arc, saying, “An overall arc was very, not vague, the opposite, it was very clear [there was] an end in sight even from the very beginning. The details obviously hadn’t been worked out, but we had talked about the very thing that we’d been working towards with this last one.”

May 22 – Although official news, click here to read up on the newest Episode IX information dropped during the Vanity Fair summer issue

May 20 – According to a recent interview, John Williams will be recording the score for Episode IX in June, 2019

May 16 – Making Star Wars made a visual description of what they believe the Knights of Ren will look like based on the leaked descriptions so far

May 16 – According to this article, there is a flashback scene showing Luke and Leia that takes place early on in the film. Carrie’s daughter, Billie Lourd, is supposedly a stand in for the scene, which will be edited with CGI to make her seem more like a younger princess Leia. There’s nothing about Harrison Ford being included in these rumors. Instead, it seems to be more a conversation between Luke and Leia on why Leia decided not to become a Jedi, which may have something to do with a vision Luke or Leia had.

May 13 – John Williams liked the early cut of the film “very much” and has written about 25 minutes of the score so far

May 8 – According to the latest Making Star Wars podcast, the swamp planet and the jungle planet are two different planets. In the trailer, it appears that Kylo is fighting Resistance fighters in a swampy location, but apparently they are NOT Resistance fighters. That battle, the Resistance fighters wearing bucket helmets, and the jungle battle, appear to be three separate locations.

In terms of order of locations, it seems to start on the jungle planet, then go to the snow planet, Jordan, the jungle planet again, and then it’s unclear where the swamp planet and Kylo’s mask rebuilding fit into the overall story.

It’s possible that there might be a Kylo/Rey fight on the snow planet, although it might be part of a Force fight. Keri’s character Zorii also seems to be the one to help the Resistance off of the snow planet, although it’s unclear if this is related to the Millennium Falcon being on fire.

May 4 – According to this article, the jungle planet appears at the end of the second act, and is where everyone meets up before they face the big “evil” at the end of the film. Apparently the plan falls apart and a skirmish occurs. This was part of the scene filmed in Black Park with an orange X-Wing and the Millennium Falcon a few months ago.

There’s a cave on this planet that they explore, which might be home to Klaud, the giant slug who helps the Resistance. After they meet him, a meeting takes place that seems like the “map room” sequence from TFA where they come up with a plan for what they’re up against.

The Falcon seems to go through a bad fire on this jungle world. It seems to make it off planet but it might be damaged, possibly beyond repair.  It’s possible the Falcon might meet its end here.

There also seems to be a First Order vs Resistance battle on this planet, most likely where Kylo stabs the fighter from the trailer. During this battle, some walkers not seen since Attack of the Clones might make an appearance. They might be AT-TEs, but that’s not confirmed.

They also seem to encounter a droid factory/repair shop/recycling facility on the snow planet where they meet D-0.

April 30 – The first cut of The Rise of Skywalker is rumored to have been screened at Bad Robot last week. It seems that they’re storing props from the film at Dagenham to be used for reshoots, not at Pinewood.

April 28 – According to this article, Matt Smith is definitely in the film, which seems to be confirmed by yesterday’s “leak.” The Death Star “graveyard” was likely filmed on the Pinewood Paddock lot; it’s unclear if he filmed there, but his character is most likely connected to it, and doesn’t seem to be a Knight of Ren.

An unconfirmed spoiler for the ending of the film is as follows. This could be what really happens, or it could just be speculation but if you don’t want to be spoiled, it’s best to avoid it in case it ends up being true:

Rumor has it that Matt Smith’s character isn’t a reincarnated Palpatine but a dark side acolyte that will be willfully possessed by Palpatine’s spirit. During the final act, Rey and Kylo will team up to fight him. The two-on-one duel is described as “pretty intense” but Kylo ends up killing Palpatine’s host body (Matt Smith). Palpatine’s spirit then jumps into Kylo Ren’s body, but he’s strong enough not to be completely possessed. He struggles to take control and subdues himself and asks Rey to kill him. He does the “right thing” by sacrificing himself to kill Palpatine and through this act becomes Ben Solo again. The reason he went into Kylo and not Rey was because she had never messed with the dark side like Kylo/the acolyte did, and so she wasn’t “evil” enough to host him.

Multiple sources have hinted that Rey will do something important at the end that “ends” Kylo, so it’s possible that this or some variation of this does play out. Back during marketing for The Last Jedi an i09 article mentioned a new dark side villain that was teased but was later scrapped: “Force sensitive, and highly attuned to the dark side but not a Sith, Snoke has trained Kylo Ren and at least one other apprentice.” Always two there are.

April 27 – A list of possible deleted scenes from The Force Awakens featuring Leia has been posted here. Some examples include Leia interrogating Finn on the First Order plans, Maz giving Leia the lightsaber on Takodana to give to Finn, and mention of a Resistance “secret weapon” codenamed “sledgehammers” or “steamrollers” (likely Hammerhead-class ships) that might appear in The Rise of Skywalker.

April 27 – According to this article, Kylo goes to a “creepy castle” owned by an “ape man” who agrees to help Kylo fix his helmet and activate a device that will help him and the rest of the Knights of Ren with whatever they’re trying to accomplish. Ash outside leads some to speculate that this might be Mustafar, but that’s not confirmed. The Knights of Ren are described as a “rowdy and evil bunch of degenerates” who are eager for the mask to be reforged and stalk about during its completion. Reports from multiple sources indicate that it might be Kylo, the ape man, the Knights of Ren, or some combination of the three that repair the mask in some kind of “ritual” although it’s also possible different sequences were shot to see what worked best.

Rumors from last summer stated that the script was about 260 pages, but that things shifted around as the story developed. It’s possible that since Kylo’s reforged helmet is a part of new marketing material that they may keep this out of the film since people know it’s been fixed already to save for time, or be explained through a deleted scene, but it’s unlikely and will probably make some sort of appearance in the film.

April 27 – According to the Czech and Polish international Disney sites, Matt Smith is mentioned in the cast listing despite not being officially confirmed to be in the film during the initial cast press release. Secrecy surrounding his role has prompted many to speculate that he’ll be playing a version of Sheev Palpatine.

April 22 – According to this article, Harrison Ford filmed a scene for the film. Han isn’t expected to be a Force ghost. Instead, the current theory is that Kylo is struggling and asks the burnt Darth Vader helmet to show him the darkness again. Instead, Luke intervenes and brings Han Solo into the picture in more of like a vision/dream to tell him that it’s never too late to come back to the light side and he can be forgiven.

April 21 – According to this article, John Boyega told an interviewer at Star Wars Celebration: “[The film] is full of different dynamics. I find [Finn] has always made very interesting friendships & relationships—with Han, Chewie, Poe. But now I don’t think I can say he’s still romantically interested in Rey.” [translated from German]

April 21 – From the latest Making Star Wars podcast, Jason thinks that Kylo Ren dies based on information that he has, although that may not be a negative thing and it may not be a permanent death. Rey might be the one to kill Kylo, but it might be part of Kylo’s overall plan. This might be somehow linked to the scene in The Force Awakens when he murders Han Solo. It’s been widely debated whether Han knew what was coming or understood why Kylo did it, but this may be a part of that.

April 21 – According to this article, Rose will be Finn’s love interest and gives Finn “something to fight for.” Kelly Marie Tran was apparently in the Vanity Fair shoot in Jordan as well, although it’s not clear if she was acting there or just part of the shoot as sources seem to feel she was more involved with the command side of things with General Leia and Lieutenant Connix.

April 20 – According to this article, the Knights of Ren see a lot of action in the Jordan shoot. They appear there as well as in Pinewood. Lando was seen filming in both locations as well, which means that it’s possible that Lando encounters the Knights of Ren at some point. The Knights of Ren look similar to how they appeared in The Force Awakens, with similar weapons. It seems that there are six total; two using really big guns and one might have a dagger. Another weapon sounds stranger, described as a stick with half a wagon wheel on it and spokes. Another has a weapon similar to a long staff broad sword, or similar to a Tusken Raider’s Gaderfi stick. Another weapon described is an oversized butcher knife, like a boat paddle.

April 19 – According to this article, as Rey and Kylo battle, the backgrounds change into places throughout the nine films, although none are specifically mentioned. One source mentioned that Kylo and his TIE fighter and Rey are in a “Wild West Stand-Off” like what we saw in the trailer, only Kylo Ren ends up walking away from the crashed TIE in flames. This will lead to them fighting. Another source says that Rey and Kylo Ren team up against an “outside threat” in a “black robe and cloak.” Also mentioned was the possibility of a Death Star graveyard.

April 19 – According to the latest Making Star Wars’ “Now, This is Podracing!” podcast and transcribed from BespinBulletin, the zero gravity final battle may be tied to big tank of water scenes that were shot at Pinewood. They think that the final battle is Kylo Ren’s ship crashing onto the Death Star site and he and Rey battle on Kylo’s ship. As far as the shot of Rey leaping over the TIE that presumably belongs to Kylo Ren in the Star Wars Celebration trailer, it doesn’t seem to go well for Kylo Ren as he’s seen in front of a burning, crashed TIE in Jordan. There was a throwback to Revenge of the Sith as he jumps out of his TIE Fighter and comes down Obi-Wan style and ignites his lightsaber as he and Rey fight. Apparently they’re both more powerful than before and link minds as they clash lightsabers. It looks like Poe, Finn, and C-3PO are in a ship that drops Rey off at the Death Star but this may not be accurate. There is debate as to who repairs Kylo Ren’s helmet, but it may be ritualistic as he heard the Knights of Ren do a kind of “dance” around it.

April 16 – Alien L from the costume leaks posted two months ago is seen in the background of Episode IX shots, confirming its presence in the film

April 14 – Oscar Isaac said in an interview that in the beginning of Episode IX, the Resistance is decimated and there’s not many people for Poe to lead, so they’re looking for allies, and, “As the film goes on, you start to see him grapple not only with the lack of leadership, I mean, Leia is, you know, gone…” implying that Leia will die early in the film, and Poe will take over leadership of the Resistance and struggle with how to keep it going.

April 13 – According to the Making Star Wars patreon podcast, Rey and Kylo meet early on in the film in the Jordan desert, in the scene shown from the trailer. This happens early in the film. They separate but meet again later in the film and “Force link.” They’re fighting at locations that neither of them are actually in, which is a continuation of their “Force Skype” established in The Last Jedi. Jason thinks that the “Forceback” Rey had in The Force Awakens is actually a flash forward to a scene from the teaser. He says he also knows the fate of Kylo Ren, but doesn’t state any specifics. There’s also a mention of a scene that takes place in a graveyard or a cemetery.

April 12 – For a full breakdown of what was discussed at the Star Wars Celebration Episode IX panel, click here for more information.

April 11 – There’s a rumor going around that the title of Episode IX has been leaked, and that it will be called “Will of the Force.”

April 6 – According to this Reddit post:

A trusted source has come through once again with some new details on what we may be seeing in Episode IX. Some of what you’re about to read and see may or may not be a bit controversial with some groups of fans, so I highly encourage you to interact civilly, keep an open mind and withhold any judgement until after you’ve seen the movie this December. With that disclaimer, let’s get into the meat of it:

  • When we pick up with Kylo’s story in IX, he’s still struggling between the Light Side and the Dark Side. In addition to this, he’s also dealing with how to reconcile his feelings toward Rey.

    • My source specifically referred to these feelings as a “love” for Rey. (It’s at this point in the post that I would like people on all sides of the “Reylo” issue to pause, take a deep breath and cool your collective jets before commenting on this).

  • Kylo either seeks out or is summoned by a new character that is being referred to by my source as “the Oracle”.

    • Whether this is a code name used during production or the real name of the character is still unclear.

    • In addition to the concept art that my source had access to (a recreation of which is pictured below. Moderator’s Note:I’ve seen the original and can say that the recreation is faithful to it), he/she also saw the sculpt of the giant “baby” head that “the Oracle” sits on top of and described it as “essentially identical to the art – just unpainted” with the size appearing to be “8 to 10 feet wide.”

      • Speculation disclaimer: From the description my source provided, it sounds to me as if the Oracle will be a puppet or practical effect of some kind. Perhaps in the same vein as Mother Proxima from Solo.

    • My source could not confirm this for sure but is under the assumption that the swamp environment that the Oracle is found in is on the forested planet seen in previously leaked set photos.

    • He/she is also under the impression that the spider-like creature is somehow parasitic/leaching off of the the unconscious/slumbering the baby giant elf looking thing seen here.

      • Moderator’s Note: This bit may or may not be the case, I’m just passing along what I was told here.

April 4 – Making Star Wars put together an interesting list of details related to C-3PO and the new snow planet:

  • There’s planet where it snows with a droid factory and the main cast visits a droid factory.
  • On snowfall planet, See-Threepio reluctantly has his memory uploaded to Artoo-Detoo which leads to some funny issues for Artoo.
  • On the snow planet, the new droid D.O. is introduced around the factory sequence and his help is required. He might be related to Keri Russell’s character.
  • In the droid factory on the snow planet there is a “Bad Robot,” Battle Droids,” and droids that relate to or resemble John Williams scores somehow. Basically there’s a lot of Easter Eggs.
  • The heroes are helped off the snowing planet by a character in purple and gold which makes me think it is Keri Russell’s character, as she was described to me as “rose-gold extremely elegant armor but with a purple under suit and a helmet that has the shape of an Olympic cycling helmet.” This costume lines up with the recent poster leak pretty well and another leak which has her listed as “Zorii.”
  • I was told the MacGuffin isn’t apparent at the start of the film and this is part of how it evolves as the story progresses. Many sources have said that Threepio is pretty important to kicking things off.

April 2 – According to BespinBulletin on Instagram, Rey meets the alien seen behind Finn in the poster leaked last week. It’s not clear whether or not she’s alone or with someone else, and the alien itself isn’t necessarily important, but their meeting leads to something more important, possibly a lead up to the MacGuffin.

April 2 – According to Episode 267 of Making Star Wars’ “Now, This is Podracing!” podcast, the Episode IX marketplace/fish monger set is the biggest ever done in any movie it’s so huge. The red stormtroopers seen on the marketing material leaked last week do look a little different, although the poster could be the final version. The alien on the poster that is seen behind Finn is animatronic and there is someone in the suit, although it seems CGI in the poster. In regards to C-3PO’s memories, it might be related to Attack of the Clones because C-3PO’s memories leads them to a snow planet, where they find dead battle droids. They might encounter Zorri on the snow planet. Two other small details are that Rose has a smaller role in Episode IX and that Billie Lourd was a stand in for Leia flashback scenes.

March 27 – Our first real glance at what Episode IX might look like, a poorly composited poster leaked online. It looks to be an assembly from different character poses that might be used for other marketing materials, or be a draft for a merchandise poster but it is not the official poster for Episode IX, which will most likely drop during Star Wars Celebration.

March 27 – More character photos have been dropped, including Keri Russell’s Zorri and Naomie Ackie’s Jannah

March 27 – Previously, Reddit user JediPaxis put forth the idea that Finn and Jannah (Naomi Ackie’s character) are siblings. Slashfilm published a story about Jannah’s backstory, but then quickly pulled it down. Here’s a snippet of what they wrote:

  • Our sources have told us that Jannah was kidnapped as a child to be turned into a Stormtrooper. We’re not sure if she ever became one, but it looks like maybe she escaped and has been living on her own, not unlike Rey. Another image of the character features her holding a bow and arrow. We’re not sure how handy that’s going to be in a fight against laser blasts, but she looks like a badass warrior.

March 24 – According to the Making Star Wars “Now This is Podcasting” episode 266, it’s possible that there will be some sort of blue ape or monkey in Episode IX. It’s also possible that C-3PO’s memories are part of the MacGuffin that everyone’s talking about. Tantive IV might be a part of it, and they might have to go to Tantive IV in order to find fragments of C-3PO’s memory that was wiped, which will lead them to something else. This could be something to do with how everyone keeps talking about how this is the “close” of the Skywalker saga and how it ties together the previous installments.

March 20 – Mark Hamill’s Force ghost has a beard, according to his interview on Jimmy Kimmel

March 9 – One more update, more of a clarification of what was seen/heard in yesterday’s footage: IX footage included quick shots of all the main characters: Poe, Finn, Rey, then Kylo looking down and then we see he is looking at a container of some kind opening to reveal it has Vader’s helmet inside. Rey says “It’s too dangerous, I’m going alone.” Poe then says “We’re going together.” We see Poe, Rey, Finn and Chewbacca [another source stated that they did not see Chewbacca] all settling into the cockpit of the Millennium Falcon. Star Wars Episode IX only had a behind the scenes reel with many shots including one of the Tantive IV, Lando and a new Droid next to BB-8 that looks like a megaphone on a wheel – confirming a recent character design leak.

March 8 – Scott Ladewig took to Twitter after the shareholder meeting and described some of the Episode IX footage he remembered seeing as best he could. It seemed to be a mix of behind the scenes footage, as well as scenes from the actual film.

  • Replying to @Ladewig @sleemo_We saw a blockade runner in an abandoned looking hangar. An explosion knocking Stormtroopers in a starship hangar bay. Kylo Ren in a white room looking at the Vader helmet. Rey, Finn, Poe in Falcon cockpit.

  • Lando briefly. Rey with Chewie’s bowcastet. Finn in some abandoned looking ship interior.

  • So @dizparks just reminded me that we saw a marketplace (?) scene with Rey walking through and some aliens.

  • He was in a room like in the rebel Blockade runner style, that bright white. And he’s looking down as a box or container opens to reveal the charred Vader helmet.

  • Kylo is not wearing a helmet.

  • Nothing like that [re: KoR footage]

  • Going to guess no [the scar is not different] but the scene goes by so quick I couldn’t really say. It’s all so overwhelming to take it all in.

  • Her hair looks pretty much the same as in the previous film.I think it was up in most scenes, but it went by so fast I may have missed it.

  • We only saw him [Kylo] in one scene and he looked pretty much the same as far as I can recall.

  • Oh wait! I just remembered…  A really cool clip of Daisy doing wire work, jumping and turning a somersault high up in the air with a lightsaber.

  • [someone pots a picture of vader meditation chamber] Ohhh, that’s very possible…… I hadn’t thought of that.

  • So a suggestion the white room we saw Kylo in could be harkening back to Vader’s meditation chamber. That’s not a bad idea.

  • Yes, pretty sure on the behind the scenes we see her doing wire work with a saber in hand I think. Not in the finished footage that I can recall but I could have missed it.

  • Hmmm.. he [Kylo] didn’t look sad so much as he looked pained.Looked like he was having a bad day.

  • [someone pointing out Kylo always looks pained] Good point, maybe it was just his resting Kylo face.

  • That sure sounds like it [re: white room = white ship confirmed] I’ll admit I haven’t kept up with the rumors myself.

  • Poe walked into the cockpit to join the others; Rey was in the pilot seat.

  • Rey’s clothes: The one I remember was light colored almost white in a similar fashion to what she was wearing previously It’s what she’s wearing in the photo on this tweet I believe.

  • Somebody asked me earlier if we saw a new character in the Ep IX , and I didn’t recall, but we actually did see a glimpse of someone new who appeared to be riding some animal (?). Guessing it was Naomi Ackie’s character.

  • I don’t think we saw enough in context to really judge that, but what I saw looked like Star Wars if you know what I mean. Daisy as Rey looked great.

  • Oh I was thinking animals like Banthas lol, sorry. Yeah nothing stood out, but it was your common Tatooine or Jakku type outfits.

Another Twitter user:

  • when asked about dialog in the footage @crerrity @Ladewig @sleemo_ Almost none, just some saying we go together or in this together from Rey, Poe, Finn.

  • No, it was more of like wooden stands an a number of characters in your classic alien Star Wars character outfits. Did look sandy though. [when shown batuu image]

Lando details from Scott and another Twitter user:

  • I think he was on the Falcon, just quick view of him from shoulders up. @dizparks Lando was on the Falcon right?

  • That’s correct, he was on the Falcon. It looked like it was his first time back on it by how he kind of touched the wall.

  • yesterday people asked about Lando and whether he was wearing yellow and/or a cape. @disparks and I just remembered him wearing purple. But… After seeing a photo someone shared of him with a yellow shirt and the dark cape, the dark cape would have been all we could see in the clip because it was form the shoulders up and form the side.

  • We did not see Chewie, R2, or 3PO [on falcon]. We did see BB-8 in some scenes.

  • Like a wedge shape head or something? [in response to whether he saw D0)]

March 7 – Reporter Emily Zemler interviewed Matt Smith, who said he is NOT actually in Episode IX. “As far as I can tell, I’m definitely not.” Variety reported that he was but his announcement was never official. Dominic Monaghan was also never officially announced, although he has confirmed that he will be in it.

March 1 – In an interview with Entertainment Weekly, Scott Trowbridge teased red Stormtroopers, a new “elite” kind of Stormtrooper called the 709th, the Red Fury, which may be part of Episode IX since they are described as an elite First Order squad.

February 26 – BespinBulletin shared the rumor that someone saw Luke Skywalker’s X-Wing or possibly an A-Wing in the UK, possibly to be used for Episode IX

February 23 – Making Star Wars’ Now, This is Podcasting! Episode 263 podcast reveals some interesting information. Props to Godxon for putting it all together:

Planets & Locations

  • Jason heard again that Jordan was used as a filming location for two planets.

  • One of them looks like Tatooine.

  • Lars homestead was reportedly built in Pinewood.

  • Tatooine is reportedly at the end of the movie.

  • It looks like a small Ahch-to set was built in Pinewood too.

  • The second Jordan planet could be named Pazama or something like that. Jason doesn’t know the exact spelling and Pazama is just my transcription.

  • There’s a miners/fish market looking town. The whole town was built in Pinewood (so maybe it’s the biggest set we heard about). Snowtroopers were there and snow special effects were used there.

  • Also, there is a droid factory on the miners/fish market set. It’s an easter egg heaven – robot from Bad Robot logo is hidden there, John Williams’ scores are somehow hidden there, few battle droids from The Phantom Menace, etc.

  • Kylo supposedly goes to a dark looking castle to get his helmet fixed in the movie – but this could be BS, because he also heard earlier that Knights of Ren fixed his helmet. There’s some monkey looking creature on this set.

  • Kylo was a part of the swamp planet (Black Park) stuff. Kylo’s pulling and throwing some Resistance soldiers, but he’s probably separated from the main battle on that planet.

Characters

  • Jason heard about the young Luke & Leia training flashback. Billie Lourd might have been a stand-in for CGI.

  • Jason seconds info about Keri Russell’s character from this leak. She might have been on the snow planet, but Jason says he could be wrong about it.

  • Knight of Ren’s weapons aren’t the same as in The Force Awakens. They look like medieval weapons with Star Wars features. They look visually neat.

  • Jason doesn’t know if any of the TFA’s KoR is in IX.

Ships

  • There’s some really black TIE.

  • Luke’s X-wing was on some set. Jason doesn’t know if it’s the ROTJ one or a different one.

  • Kylo supposedly has a new ship. It’s white with red and black details. It has some cool gadgets.

  • Supposedly Vader’s helmet is on that ship.

  • Jason heard that Falcon is on a fire at some point.

  • There’s an orange X-wing with R2 unit in it. His source doesn’t think it’s Poe Dameron’s.

  • Supposedly Rey has Luke’s X-wing helmet.

  • There was supposedly a massive ship on the Cardington set. The final battle with zero gravity was probably filmed there.

Plot

  • Jason’s gotten info to suggest the MacGuffin changes, going from one thing which leads to something else, and that it ends up revealing the big secret of the movie.

February 19 – A “trusted source” has dropped some interesting details on Reddit, possibly including the rumored MacGuffin

  • Luke and Leia appear in multiple flashbacks, including at least one scene where Leia is being trained or is discussing Jedi training with Luke. The outcome of the training is uncertain. It is also unclear if Carrie Fisher and Mark Hamill filmed these scenes and will be de-aged, or if they are portrayed by younger actors and CG’d like Leia and Tarkin in Rogue One. My source has heard nothing about about Han appearing in any flashbacks.
  • Leia’s role as Resistance leader is being said to be of a similar in size to her TFA role, perhaps even smaller, though her flashback scenes make her seem more present in the film. No confirmation on whether Leia lives or dies in the film.
  • There are solid red First Order Troopers, yet their role is unclear at this point in time.
  • Nien Nunb appears in an identical costume from the previous films and has a larger role than either TFA or TLJ.
  • The Knights of Ren do appear and each have a distinct weapon of choice as has been previously seen in TFA and the concept art for that film.
    • We don’t have any confirmation that the any of the Knights previously seen in TFA will or won’t be appearing in IX.
  • Keri Russell’s character is a bounty hunter with an allegiance that is unclear to my source. Keri’s character wears a purple (nearly magenta) jumpsuit with bronze/gold accessories, including an elongated helmet.
    • Think about a fancier version of Zam Wesell and my source says that will get you pretty close.
  • Naomi Ackie’s character is supposedly Finn’s sister.
    • Moderator’s note: This point was presented to my source as factual like all the other parts of this post, but I believe it might be wise to take this one with a grain of salt until other sources can corroborate this particular bit of information.
  • C-3PO has a scene where he holds military gear. It’s unclear whether he actually fires any weapons though.
    • My source doesn’t recall exact details but 3PO appeared to have a bag or net (not unlike the Ewok trap net) and what he/she believes to be Chewie’s bowcaster.

February 19 – Trailer rumored to drop in April (meaning it will most likely drop at Celebration) and be attached to Avengers: Endgame in theatres

February 17 – According to this 4chan post, Palpatine returns and his consciousness is held in an item (the MacGuffin). He possessed a body and ruled as Snoke, but when Snoke died, the consciousness returned to the item. Kylo needs to destroy this item to stop Palpatine from reclaiming the First Order through another host. The Knights of Ren tell Kylo where they think it is, and he and Rey team up to destroy Palpatine. The twist is that Matt Smith is already possessed when they return to Kylo and eventually turns on him. The Momin Mask is one example of how Lucasfilm has been setting up “Force possession” in canon.

February 15 – This is official news, but it’s worth mentioning here too that filming for Episode IX has officially wrapped according to JJ’s Twitter post as well as posts from several other cast and crew members

February 14 – According to Fantha Tracks, the Millennium Falcon will look a bit different, including a new style sensor array dish

February 12 – Drawing from the new MSW podcast, SorryNotSpartacus put together a neat list of highlights:

  • Jason has not heard anything about all the KOR being women (and personally that seems unlikely though some may be)
  • Jason believes the red and black stormtroopers also come from the Beyond with the KOR, meaning that they might be primarily loyal to the KOR despite technically being Kylo’s and the KOR’s
  • Jason has heard that some of the KOR are force users, but some are not, bringing together the various rumors we have had that we should not assume Force powers of the KOR.
  • Jason hasn’t gotten the term sith stormtrooper confirmed, so it may well just be a nickname on set (recall that BB-9E was called BB-H8). No indication they can use the force. He personally doubts they can.
  • Really the main thing Jason has been told about the MacGuffin is that it’s controversial. One person who is balanced and hands off fandom did say that it was delightful, but the repeated word has been controversial, from people who get the fandom more. When Jason said that this was pretty usual for fandom, they said that many of the things in TLJ did not strike them as controversial. This, however, does.
  • He has not gotten any bites on it being something like Vader’s lightsaber (which doesn’t reject it, but for what it’s worth)
  • Jason knows they shot promotional stuff in Jordan; he doesn’t think Rose was there though doesn’t know. (I would guess it might be hard to find out, and especially if they filmed some Jordan stuff on set, this might not be very relevant).
  • Jason says he’s seen some images of the IX script and it seems longer than usual. Does later say that given the improv nature of what we have been hearing, it’s possible they’re just gunning for it and planning on cutting down later.
  • Jason confirms that he’s heard Dominic is a Resistance leader
  • Jason seconds the idea of Jordan having been possibly used for two planets (which per The Great TB Scandal of ’19, matches previous info)

February 9 – The Reddit user Xyzsvtabc posted on December 2nd information about Kylo’s helmet and BB-8’s droid buddies that has seemingly been verified by a concept art and costume photos, seen here.

February 9 – BespinBulletin reported that Kylo doesn’t wear his helmet in the second half of the film

February 5 – Filming in Black Park wrapped according to this Instagram post

February 3 – A source at the Art Institute of Chicago said people from the Star Wars set were interested in medieval armor and weaponry from the High Middle Ages and the Viking Age, which may have influenced the aesthetic of the Knights of Ren

January 23 – Another new leak by Temiriblagg1, although most seems like speculation:

The following is raw facts free of speculation.

  • Hooded Poe and Finn. Are in a street scene

  • this was inside pinewood studios

  • there were several large animatronic creatures around

  • the scene featured many extras

  • there is another set that was a large set described like the cantina from a new hope

  • there were many alien extras

  • (Naomi Ackie) Vera engages several in a fight and somewhat of a bar fight breaks out

  • Vera is then with Poe and Finn

  • Stormtroopers arrive and there is a chase

  • Vera is with members of her group

  • Chewie arrives on the set later on

  • Those horses were on set

Now this is what I gather, this is the speculation sub is it not?:

  • This is the First the audience sees of Finn and Poe in IX

  • Poe and Finn are sent undercover to speak with Vera Calrissian after being sent by her father.

  • They fins her throughout the fight scene

  • Stormtroopers who occupy the city and patrol come in and the heroes need to fight their way out

  • The chase is the Stormtroopers coming after them and more of Veras group engage them

  • Chewbacca also joins the fray

  • They escape and make their way to Vera’s base where (Domenic Monaghan) Arvyl is introduced

  • what I don’t understand is how they end up with General Hux?????

January 19 – An update on the last Reddit post by /u/SorryNotSparticus, concerning the previous rumors posted on January 17:

  • The user clearly has some details correct. I can verify that someone I spoke to also believes Jordan, for example, to have served as two separate planets. I can also verify that they believed Tatooine to be a set, and that it was a place we have seen before (not Hutts). I can verify that Mark has likely shot with Daisy, and that Kylo’s helmet use definitely at least decreases significantly in the second half of the film.
  • Beyond raw info like that is where things start to get fuzzy, and sometimes even the raw info is I think, based on the sources I know, wrong too.
  • For example: The user states that Keri Russell and Mark Hamill filmed scenes together. That I cannot confirm or deny–I simply don’t know. What I do know given the people I was under the impression Mark filmed with: I am not sure how there would be time. He has not filmed a lot to my knowledge. Mark roughly implied a week in one interview. One crewman in fact seemed certain that he had not filmed period as of January, just had been visiting set often as he is known to do. Conflicting evidence on this leads me to wonder whether Mark is simply providing a Force bond sort of presence on set but is meant to be voicing the role later, or filming his coverage in a different CG way to be done later in the production.
  • The user also expresses a certain reveal is true, one that would involve heavy flashbacks. It is true that to my knowledge that Luke is involved in a lot of flashback/dream/vision sort of stuff (people have been unclear exactly how all of it will be used in the final product). A crew member also indeed seemed to think there might be a scene of Luke arriving on Ahch-To. But at least one crew guy heavily implied it would not be Mark during those scenes. The implication to me seemed that it was a younger actor playing a younger Luke–which would mean that it would not be Mark and Keri during those scenes at all. While a younger Luke might explain more the timeline of the rumor I have seen running around, it’s so far off the map of what the user claims to know that I have to assume he’s again either speculating wildly based off some facts he knows, or simply repeating word for word something he heard from a crew member, one who may be just speculating themselves or be pulling his leg.
  • I’d advise people to recall two things: 1. How no one but above the line talent and high up essential crew are likely to truly understand the context of what they are seeing/have heard about, and 2: How even MSW who has been fairly reliable and pulls from many of the same people has often been wildly wrong because a good source couldn’t help but speculate wildly.

January 17 – Reddit user Temiriblagg1 posted a treasure trove of leaks, said to be from crew members around the Pinewood set:

The following is news that I have accumulated from various sources around the pinewood set, this comes from crew members from the area

  • Domenic Monaghan’s rebel character is named Arvyl – his character initially did not make it past the second act but he has been confirmed to appear late in the film

  • there is a Duros character who has prominence within the resistance

  • Kelly Marie Tran isn’t so much in the action as much as the last Jedi. She is however involved in an action sequence alongside Finn at some point

  • Hux is not involved in the latter of the film. Not to say he dies early, but his power position is diminished and he is not a primary antagonist

  • Richard E Grant plays a tyrannical First Order general

  • the Knights of Ren are certainly in the film and their screen time is surprisingly lengthy – Matt Smith is said to have been on set dressed in dark robes and holding a lightsaber prop

  • Kylo has his helmet re forged but is more often helmetless in the latter half

  • Ben pilots the falcon

  • Keri Russell is involved with Luke’s storyline

LAST BUT NOT LEAST:

  • Luke is involved in a flashback scene with Han and Leia wherein Ben is dropped off for training to a young Luke – an 8 year old Ben was cast and he will have a talk with Luke about wanting to be a Jedi and a guardian of the good in the galaxy

  • Luke has shot scenes with both Daisy Ridley and Adam Driver

  • Rey visits Tattooine

EDIT: Poe also flies the falcon, alongside Naomi Ackie’s Vera Calrissian, I forgot about that tidbit. Have a great day/night

January 15 – John Boyega shared on his Instagram page a picture of bloody hands. He captioned the photo, “Great day working on set!! The whole team pushed themselves today to achieve something visually crazy! I’ve had many moments of shock on set but not like today and I can’t wait until you know why #FN2187” The mention of his old Stormtrooper designation has led to speculation that Finn will be involved in the beginning of the Stormtrooper uprising that was cut from The Last Jedi.

January 15 – Fantha Tracks has reported that shooting has moved to Cardington Sheds, which has been used as the exterior of Yavin IV base in A New Hope and Rogue One. Horses have also been seen on location there.

Considering Yavin IV is the home planet of Poe Dameron, it’s possible that the Resistance might have a base set up there after their headquarters on D’Qar was destroyed in The Last Jedi. 

December 29 – A Reddit user with a friend at Pinewood says they possibly saw Caluan Ematt, played by Andrew Jack, at the Pinewood swamp sequence, dressed in a Resistance uniform

December 28 – Todd Fisher explains that unused footage of Carrie from the last two films will be woven into Episode IX in a way that seems extremely natural, saying, “This is unused, new content that could be woven into the storyline. That’s what’s going to give everybody such a great kick. It’s going to look like it was meant to be. Like it was shot yesterday.”

December 26 – Although not generally a credible source, The Sun announced that UK chef Jamie Oliver has secured a cameo as a Stormtrooper in Episode IX

December 22 – John Boyega confirms that Episode IX will take place one year after the events of The Last Jedi (although John later posted on Twitter that he doesn’t remember saying that in the interview)

December 20 – Prompted by a whirlwind of rumors, Natalie Portman says she has no knowledge of her reprising her role as Padme Amidala for Episode IX

December 20 – A Reddit user reported that filming will be happening in a large pool at the studio involving Resistance troops coming out of the water and preparing to ambush First Order forces, which were also being attacked by a “large bat like prosthetic creature.”

December 18 – It’s rumored something is going to be revealed before the end of the year – it seems too early for a trailer, but it seems something related to Episode IX will drop before the year’s out

December 18 – Making Star Wars reports that a swamp battle between the First Order and the Resistance is being filmed at Black Park. The Resistance fighters seem to be dressed in camo fatigues similar to Endor, but no main characters were seen on set.

December 15 – A Reddit user claimed to have light spoilers from marketing describing the outfits of different characters involved: Kylo has yellow eyes, Leia wears red, BB-8 has a green disguise, and the Knights of Ren are all women. There is no credible source to back any of this up, but it’s fun to read if you like to speculate which seems to be all that this is.

December 9 – John Boyega posts a small behind the scenes video of him filming on set on his Instagram
UPDATE: It looks like this video is not part of Episode IX, but an ad campaign he’s shooting for Cisco. Thanks to our commenter below for the heads up!

December 7 – Ed Sheeran is possibly making a cameo as a Stormtrooper in Episode IX

December 6 – Oscar Isaac’s brother continues to hint about his possible involvement with Episode IX

December 5 – Possible title and teaser coming before the end of the year (although personally I feel that this is just “hype” and they’ll wait until Star Wars Celebration for the official reveal)

December 5 – Kevin Smith visited the Episode IX set and said that he saw things from across all of the movies, that it was the biggest movie set he had ever seen, that he saw the best performance of someone’s career and that he cried…a lot.

December 3 – According to a Reddit user viewing the Pinewood Studio through a satellite noticed what appears to be a big jungle stage built in the paddock tank where they filmed part of Takodana for The Force Awakens. There is a lot of greenery and possibly a small lake. These details are absent in a satellite image taken weeks prior.

December 3 – Someone on Reddit said that they have information that the Knights of Ren are confirmed, but there’s no official source to back that up, but fits with what another poster described about a scene being filmed at Pinewood involving smoke, atmospheric effects, firearms, sword fighting, and masked figures.

December 3 – A Reddit user stated that Rey’s costume is described as less Jedi like and more neutral in color, more “tactical.” The three plot lines will center around Poe and Finn on a mission, Rey and Rose going on an “adventure” and the last thread would be from Kylo’s perspective trying to keep the First Order following his command

December 2 – A poster on Reddit said that during a marketing meeting, they discussed several things about Episode IX, mainly that BB-8 has a droid buddy, Rey and Kylo will have a big showdown at the end of the film, and that Kylo’s mask has been reforged with red filling in through the cracks. They also stated that Rey’s lightsaber will be remade, but it will not be shown on screen. FEBRUARY 9 UPDATE: This leak has seemingly been verified by the costume reference photos and concept art seen here.

November 28 – Anthony Daniel posts on his Twitter about filming in Pinewood and Wadi Rum

November 21 – Jeremy Conrad wrote on his Twitter that there will be no Episode IX teasers until April, saying, “There are reasons why it’s too soon to show stuff.” April coincides with Star Wars Celebration, which many have speculated will be the time Lucasfilm announces both the title of Episode IX and reveals the first glimpses of footage.

November 18 – A promo video for a ride called “Rise of the Resistance” in Disney’s new Galaxy’s Edge park shows that the Resistance fleet after The Last Jedi will compromise of a new Mon Calamari cruiser, more Starfortresses, and two Nebulon C Frigates (at the very least). Matt Martin of the Lucasfilm Story Group has said that all events in the park’s story are canon, and take place after The Last Jedi.

November 17 – According to Reddit user Garniel, he was showed recorded phone clips of Rey and Chewie being tossed into the air after an explosion (with a green screen in the background) and Finn and another male (possibly Poe) in an almost identical shot, without a green screen. Rey appeared to be in a similar costume to the one she wore in The Force Awakens and also had shots of her doing solo running, jumping, and swinging, with a lit blue lightsaber. He took interesting photos of the clean up of the Jordan set as well, which finished wrapping a few days ago, according to his contact.

November 15 – Oscar Isaac’s brother Mike rumored to have a cameo appearance in Episode IX

November 9 – ViewerAnon, who has made accurate claims before, claims that the word “Annihilation” will be used in the Episode IX title, although it is seen by many as a joke and not a serious leak

November 8 – Photos from The Star Wars Show show that the kyber crystal in Anakin Skywalker’s lightsaber broke in half during The Last Jedi, which could force Rey to construct a new lightsaber, or at the very least, find a new crystal

November 5 – Matt Smith supposedly playing a Young Palpatine in Episode IX according to an anonymous source

October 28 – John Boyega hints at possible wielding a lightsaber again according to his reply to a fan tweet that’s up for interpretation

October 24 – Leaked set photo from Episode IX is NOT a leak – revealed to actually be from behind the scenes of the Pirates of the Caribbean set

October 8 – Shots of a film set from Wadi Rum, Jordan, hints Rey’s possible return to Jakku

October 2 – New structure being built at Pinewood Studios that might be related to Episode IX

September 28 – A disgruntled Hux grows frustrated with Kylo Ren and feeds information to the Resistance to undermine him

September 24 – Supposed leaked storyboard design reveals that Rey meets her parents, or has a vision of them, on the new jungle planet

September 20 – Andy Serkis cancelled his appearance at Keystone Comic Con, which fueled speculation that it’s due to Episode IX filming. Many suspect that he’ll return as a flashback, although there are no solid details to confirm that, or if the cancellation is related to Star Wars at all.

September 11 – Giant rock structures are being transported to the Black Park filming location

September 9 – Possible leak from Reddit:

  • So here’s the deal. My friend’s father is currently at Pinewood Studios working on, you guessed it, Episode IX, as a prop designer. Long story short my friends told me some stuff that his father told him about the film. If I were you, I would take these with half a grain of salt, because my friend jokes around quite a bit. But who knows?
  • Firstly, IX will NOT be split into 2 parts. Apparently, the long filming schedule, which is being overly exaggerated by the press, is due to some actor’s busy schedules, and some more technically advanced scenes to film. Also the leaked date of filming wrapping includes their time shooting off studio apparently, on location.
  • Some of the weaponry that has been designed for the film is very medieval, not Star Warsy at all. Supposedly this is due to the main storyline of the film, which is said to be very Seven Samurai-esque, having Poe and Finn travel to distant places, not that advanced, in the galaxy to recruit Resistance soldiers.
  • On the other side of things, there has been some new weaponry, specifically multiple lightsabers that have popped up. This is going to be for the Knights of Ren, who are going to have a role in this film, serving as Kylo’s right-hand men, almost like the Black Order in IW. They have some lightsabers very reminiscent of the ones from Rebels, though these can very easily be for Rey or someone else.
  • Finally, the rumors of having a Maz sail barge is true. They’ve designed some jewelry and drinkware that is going to be for it. Supposedly Lando is going to be introduced through this barge as well. No word on any Lando props though.

September 1 – Making Star Wars releases Black Park filming set jungle photos – possibly Batuu?

August 29 – Rumored casting call for a 27-35 year old actress described as “a younger Charlize Theron with street smarts and a sharp wit” and is open to any ethnicity to play supporting role in Episode IX

August 27 – Keri Russell is currently filming Episode IX in London and Greg Gunberg (AKA Snap Wexley of Black Squadron) mentioned at Fairfax Comic Con that he was heading to the UK to film things for Episode IX, (he has already hinted at his involvement when someone asked him about growing back his beard earlier this year) so this seems to put Keri Russell’s character most likely in the Resistance camp if they’re filming scenes together.

August 24 – 4LOM-LucasfilmSpy reports that the August 23rd photos are when Finn and Poe reunite with Chewbacca, who has been working with a paramilitary group led by Naomi Ackie’s character to build a resistance force. At their home base, she gives them information about how strong the First Order has become and how much control they have. The group then leaves to pick up Rose, who has made contact with Maz Kanata and Lando. They are held up in a pirates den that looks like something out of PotC but they all agreed that they don’t have the strength to take on the First Order alone. Finn, Poe, and Rose go off to try to enlist the help of the Hutt Cartel, and by the end of the first act, the Resistance has a “rag tag” army of droids, aliens, outcasts and criminals focused on wiping out the First Order (and Supreme Leader Ren!)

August 23 – First pictures of Poe, Finn, and the rest of the cast on set

August 22 – Millennium Falcon spotted at Black Park Episode IX set

August 8 – Mark Hamill teases possibly returning to filming on Instagram

August 8 – Youtube account Film Threat sets the Internet ablaze with rumors that Rey is really Han Solo and Qi’ra’s daughter

 

3 thoughts on “Episode IX Spoilers, Leaks and Rumors – Updated May 25

  1. It is really nice you gathered all info and rumors for Episode IX in one page.

    But all the info is in a page “buried” in August 2018 archives, although it is updated on a regular basis. Perhaps you could put a link of it in the front page , like the one you did for the Last Jedi movie review (or you could replace TLJ movie review with the link for this page. It is an awful film anyway).

    Thank you for keeping us informed!

  2. I hate to disappoint you, but the video John posted on insta today is not from IX. I wish it was, but it’s from the ad campaign he’s shooting for Cisco Systems.
    Still of interest, Finn is definitely keeping his longer hair in IX.

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